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Remote oil filter adapters?

I am considering purchasing a remote oil filter adapter kit for a 1996
miata.  Has anyone in the group had success or failure with the kits?
Anyone want to recommend a manufacturer and distributor?

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50 Responses to “Remote oil filter adapters?”

  1. admin says:

    "William P. Bailey Sr." <v…@home.com> wrote:

    >I am considering purchasing a remote oil filter adapter kit for a 1996
    >miata.  Has anyone in the group had success or failure with the kits?
    >Anyone want to recommend a manufacturer and distributor?

    I have the Brain Storm kit.  Plan to install it later this Spring break.
    I’ll post how it comes out.

    There is some info in the product review section on miata.net but not
    enough to make a decision about which kit to get.  I got BSP since I
    tend to be satisfied with their products.  You could try e-mailing
    the authors.

    Leon

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  2. admin says:

    A friend of mine put the BrainStorm kit on his ’94 several months ago and has
    had no problems with the kit. It is a solid looking piece.

    Mark

    In article <pNer6.318602$j6.44630…@news1.rdc1.va.home.com>, "William P.

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    Bailey Sr." <v…@home.com> wrote:
    >I am considering purchasing a remote oil filter adapter kit for a 1996
    >miata.  Has anyone in the group had success or failure with the kits?
    >Anyone want to recommend a manufacturer and distributor?

  3. admin says:

    Thanks for the info.  I have ordered the relocation kit and I’ll let you all
    know how it works out.
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    > A friend of mine put the BrainStorm kit on his ’94 several months ago and
    has
    > had no problems with the kit. It is a solid looking piece.

    > Mark

    > In article <pNer6.318602$j6.44630…@news1.rdc1.va.home.com>, "William P.
    > Bailey Sr." <v…@home.com> wrote:
    > >I am considering purchasing a remote oil filter adapter kit for a 1996
    > >miata.  Has anyone in the group had success or failure with the kits?
    > >Anyone want to recommend a manufacturer and distributor?

  4. admin says:

    How do you install these doo-hickeys?  I barely can touch my oil filter.

  5. admin says:

    Exactly why I want to try relocating the filter!  What a pain just to change
    the oil.
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    > How do you install these doo-hickeys?  I barely can touch my oil filter.

  6. admin says:

    Jack it up, put it on stands, get underneath, take a couple of things off.
    Might as well put the real oil pressure sender in while you’re there.

    ALYSONSDAD <alysons…@aol.com> wrote in message

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    > How do you install these doo-hickeys?  I barely can touch my oil filter.

  7. admin says:

    On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:25:50 GMT, "Michael Bradbury"

    <mbradbu…@home.com> wrote:
    >Jack it up, put it on stands, get underneath, take a couple of things off.
    >Might as well put the real oil pressure sender in while you’re there.

    Speaking of oil pressure senders.  Can I use an older miata sender on
    my M2 without a guage replacment?  The articles in miata.net allude to
    that fact, but I’m not convinced.  

    I bought the miata.net suggested sender replacement from JC whitney
    and I’d have to say it’s the cheapest pices of crap I’ve seen in a
    long time.  There’s no way I’m putting it on my car.  

    Sheldon

  8. admin says:

    On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:23:17 -0000, Bryan

    <fn…@grateful-SPAM.ME.NOT.net> wrote:
    >Sheldon D. Stokes <sto…@spinn.net> wrote:

    >> I bought the miata.net suggested sender replacement from JC whitney
    >> and I’d have to say it’s the cheapest pices of crap I’ve seen in a
    >> long time.  There’s no way I’m putting it on my car.  

    >wow, sounds bad.  I was about to order that thing.

    I’ll mail it to you in exchange for something you don’t want of
    similar value (~$20)…

    I wouldn’t trust my engine to something that looks like it could fail
    within minutes.  You don’t want a an oil spewing hole in your engine,
    especially one you paid for.

    >so, what’s the next best quality pressure sender in the right
    >resistance, etc, etc?

    I’m hoping the early M1 sender will work without dash modifications.
    I’d love to hear a yes or no on that one.

    Sheldon

  9. admin says:

    I HAD the link to the place to get the good ones, but can’t think who made
    them! Bosch? VDO?  awwwwww
    There was a discussion on miatanet, that’s where I got the link. Try a
    search
    Sheldon D. Stokes <sto…@spinn.net> wrote in message
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    > On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:25:50 GMT, "Michael Bradbury"
    > <mbradbu…@home.com> wrote:

    > >Jack it up, put it on stands, get underneath, take a couple of things
    off.
    > >Might as well put the real oil pressure sender in while you’re there.

    > Speaking of oil pressure senders.  Can I use an older miata sender on
    > my M2 without a guage replacment?  The articles in miata.net allude to
    > that fact, but I’m not convinced.

    > I bought the miata.net suggested sender replacement from JC whitney
    > and I’d have to say it’s the cheapest pices of crap I’ve seen in a
    > long time.  There’s no way I’m putting it on my car.

    > Sheldon

  10. admin says:

    No on the M1 working.
     http://www.egauges.com/
    Is the source of the VDO sending unit. Cost is around $40.
     Tell JCW to take a hike!

    Sheldon D. Stokes <sto…@spinn.net> wrote in message
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    > On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:23:17 -0000, Bryan
    > <fn…@grateful-SPAM.ME.NOT.net> wrote:

    > >Sheldon D. Stokes <sto…@spinn.net> wrote:

    > >> I bought the miata.net suggested sender replacement from JC whitney
    > >> and I’d have to say it’s the cheapest pices of crap I’ve seen in a
    > >> long time.  There’s no way I’m putting it on my car.

    > >wow, sounds bad.  I was about to order that thing.

    > I’ll mail it to you in exchange for something you don’t want of
    > similar value (~$20)…

    > I wouldn’t trust my engine to something that looks like it could fail
    > within minutes.  You don’t want a an oil spewing hole in your engine,
    > especially one you paid for.

    > >so, what’s the next best quality pressure sender in the right
    > >resistance, etc, etc?

    > I’m hoping the early M1 sender will work without dash modifications.
    > I’d love to hear a yes or no on that one.

    > Sheldon

  11. admin says:

    http://www.miataforum.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/003019.html
    Is the original discussion.

    Sheldon D. Stokes <sto…@spinn.net> wrote in message
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    > On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:23:17 -0000, Bryan
    > <fn…@grateful-SPAM.ME.NOT.net> wrote:

    > >Sheldon D. Stokes <sto…@spinn.net> wrote:

    > >> I bought the miata.net suggested sender replacement from JC whitney
    > >> and I’d have to say it’s the cheapest pices of crap I’ve seen in a
    > >> long time.  There’s no way I’m putting it on my car.

    > >wow, sounds bad.  I was about to order that thing.

    > I’ll mail it to you in exchange for something you don’t want of
    > similar value (~$20)…

    > I wouldn’t trust my engine to something that looks like it could fail
    > within minutes.  You don’t want a an oil spewing hole in your engine,
    > especially one you paid for.

    > >so, what’s the next best quality pressure sender in the right
    > >resistance, etc, etc?

    > I’m hoping the early M1 sender will work without dash modifications.
    > I’d love to hear a yes or no on that one.

    > Sheldon

  12. admin says:

    On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:10:12 GMT, "Michael Bradbury"

    <mbradbu…@home.com> wrote:
    >http://www.miataforum.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/003019.html
    >Is the original discussion.

    Thanks a bunch.  I just read that whole thread, and it appears that
    without needle adjustment the guage goes to zero when the engine is
    hot.  I’ll have to get an EDO sender and play with it.

    Sheldon

  13. admin says:

    Michael Bradbury wrote:

    > Jack it up, put it on stands, get underneath, take a couple of things off.
    > Might as well put the real oil pressure sender in while you’re there.

    And the knock sensor….

  14. admin says:

    In article <mjotat0i3k408t8vrv9g9uomq0361mk…@4ax.com>,
    Sheldon D. Stokes  <sto…@spinn.net> wrote:

    >On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:25:50 GMT, "Michael Bradbury"
    ><mbradbu…@home.com> wrote:

    >>Jack it up, put it on stands, get underneath, take a couple of things off.
    >>Might as well put the real oil pressure sender in while you’re there.

    >Speaking of oil pressure senders.  Can I use an older miata sender on
    >my M2 without a guage replacment?  The articles in miata.net allude to
    >that fact, but I’m not convinced.  

    IIRC, the articles indicate that the older sender requires the older
    gauge.  And there’s a bunch of plumbing work which needs to be done to
    make the older sender fit.

    Matthew T. Russotto                                russo…@pond.com
    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
    of justice is no virtue."

  15. admin says:

    On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:51:57 -0700, Sheldon D. Stokes

    <sto…@spinn.net> wrote:

    I just put a new oil pressure sender in my 2001 LS today.  I used the
    VDO sender, which is way nicer than the JCwhitney one.  It cost $34
    from NAPA.  

    To see some pictures and a description of what I did see:

    http://quadesl.com/miata.shtml

    Sheldon

  16. admin says:

    On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:47:13 GMT, Randy <r…@uearthlingu.net> wrote:
    >Thanks for the great info and pictures.  I too am concerned about this
    >on my ’01 and want to make the conversion.  I do have one question
    >though, what is a "1/8-27 to 1/8-28 BPT converter"?  I am assuming
    >that it is the brass part on the VDO sender in your first picture,
    >right?

    Right, the sender has a 1/8 x 27 NPT thread on it, and your miata has
    a 1/8 x 28 BPT.  What a british thread is doing on a japanese car is a
    bit of a mystery.  After all, there is obviously some british sports
    car design in there, but that’s taking it a bit too far.  :)

    So in order not to damage the threads, an adapter is in order.

    Sheldon

  17. admin says:

    Thanks for the great info and pictures.  I too am concerned about this
    on my ’01 and want to make the conversion.  I do have one question
    though, what is a "1/8-27 to 1/8-28 BPT converter"?  I am assuming
    that it is the brass part on the VDO sender in your first picture,
    right?

    On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:21:27 -0700, Sheldon D. Stokes

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    <sto…@spinn.net> wrote:
    >On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:51:57 -0700, Sheldon D. Stokes
    ><sto…@spinn.net> wrote:

    >I just put a new oil pressure sender in my 2001 LS today.  I used the
    >VDO sender, which is way nicer than the JCwhitney one.  It cost $34
    >from NAPA.  

    >To see some pictures and a description of what I did see:

    >http://quadesl.com/miata.shtml

    >Sheldon

  18. admin says:

    I installed the Moss oil filter relocation kit last night and it took about
    two hours.  It is really easy to install but after a couple of beers things,
    are better if you go slow.  Anyway, the kit seem just fine.  However, I
    would advise making sure the lines are not rubbing against anything under
    the hood as I fear they will eventually leak if left to contact other parts
    of the motor.

    "Keksz" <ke…@starpower.net> wrote in message

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    > Michael Bradbury wrote:

    > > Jack it up, put it on stands, get underneath, take a couple of things
    off.
    > > Might as well put the real oil pressure sender in while you’re there.

    > And the knock sensor….

  19. admin says:

    "William P. Bailey Sr." <v…@home.com> wrote:

    >I installed the Moss oil filter relocation kit last night and it took about
    >two hours.  It is really easy to install but after a couple of beers things,
    >are better if you go slow.  Anyway, the kit seem just fine.  However, I
    >would advise making sure the lines are not rubbing against anything under
    >the hood as I fear they will eventually leak if left to contact other parts
    >of the motor.

    Then again, I spend only about an hour to install the Brain-Storm
    relocated unit against the firewall, jack up the car, take off the
    wheel, take off the 36 bolts holding the splash pan.  Then I
    discovered I had Superlube install a nonOEM oil filter last time,
    since I was out of OEM ones.  (First nonOEM in 74kmi).  And of
    course I did not have a filter wrench except the Mazda one, which
    was much too large.  And too tight for my fingers, even fortified
    with a nonslip pad, and for poorly positioned pliers.  Curses.
    Need to do the whole thing again after I get a oil filter wrench
    with a breaker bar.  :(

    >"Keksz" <ke…@starpower.net> wrote in message
    >news:3AAF5A6B.501FA715@starpower.net…

    >> Michael Bradbury wrote:

    >> > Jack it up, put it on stands, get underneath, take a couple of things
    >off.
    >> > Might as well put the real oil pressure sender in while you’re there.

    >> And the knock sensor….

    Leon

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  20. admin says:

    "Leon van Dommelen" <dommel…@zmiata.net> wrote in message
    news:qd3tbtsmtp7jefk88e3d52hqfdpehesnrt@4ax.com…
    : "William P. Bailey Sr." <v…@home.com> wrote:
    : …  Then I
    : discovered I had Superlube install a nonOEM oil filter last time,
    : since I was out of OEM ones.  (First nonOEM in 74kmi).  And of
    : course I did not have a filter wrench except the Mazda one, which
    : was much too large….

    On occasion, in the same situation with other cars, I’ve simply driven an
    appropriate screwdriver into the body of the filter and used that to provide
    the leverage to break it loose.  It’s easy to remove the screwdriver and
    turn the filter by hand after that.

        Jerry & Serrano

  21. admin says:

    > On occasion, in the same situation with other cars, I’ve simply driven an
    > appropriate screwdriver into the body of the filter and used that to provide
    > the leverage to break it loose.  It’s easy to remove the screwdriver and
    > turn the filter by hand after that.

    you may have trouble getting the angle to hammer a screwdriver into a
    miata oil filter, it’s tight under there.  I’ve had that problem in the
    past too, and I’ve used a big "C" clamp to crush the filter and spin it
    off.  

    Sheldon

  22. admin says:

    On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:37:34 GMT, "Jerry Houston"

    <jerry.hous…@gte.net> wrote:
    >On occasion, in the same situation with other cars, I’ve simply driven an
    >appropriate screwdriver into the body of the filter and used that to provide
    >the leverage to break it loose.  It’s easy to remove the screwdriver and
    >turn the filter by hand after that.

    >    Jerry & Serrano

    Yeah, well an aquaintance tried that on his abused VW Rabbit, and the
    filter ripped like the cheap thin steel that is was. Which left him in
    an alley in Washington D.C. late Sunday afternoon with a car with no
    oil in it, nor any way to add any oil to it. He came to me and said
    "OK, now what?" Sorry Charlie, tow truck time. Not recommended by me.
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  23. admin says:

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    Shep <n…@void.com> wrote:
    >On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:37:34 GMT, "Jerry Houston"
    ><jerry.hous…@gte.net> wrote:

    >>On occasion, in the same situation with other cars, I’ve simply driven an
    >>appropriate screwdriver into the body of the filter and used that to provide
    >>the leverage to break it loose.  It’s easy to remove the screwdriver and
    >>turn the filter by hand after that.

    >>    Jerry & Serrano
    >Yeah, well an aquaintance tried that on his abused VW Rabbit, and the
    >filter ripped like the cheap thin steel that is was. Which left him in
    >an alley in Washington D.C. late Sunday afternoon with a car with no
    >oil in it, nor any way to add any oil to it. He came to me and said
    >"OK, now what?" Sorry Charlie, tow truck time. Not recommended by me.

    Actually, I think my filter is cheap yellow plastic.  Pep Boys was
    already closed when I reached them after work, (closing at 7?) but if
    they don’t have a wrench that gets it off, my plan 9 from outer space
    is to take the car to Superlube to have the oil changed and this
    time give them a genuine Mazda filter.  They tightened it, let them
    (or whoever is there now) loosen it.   Another crew educated about
    the difference between finger tight and 100 ft lb.  :)

    Leon

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  24. admin says:

    In article <g7svbt0pk7dudi2dok5cl43ooc9vv1k…@4ax.com>,
    dommel…@zmiata.net says…

    > Actually, I think my filter is cheap yellow plastic.  Pep Boys was
    > already closed when I reached them after work, (closing at 7?) but if
    > they don’t have a wrench that gets it off, my plan 9 from outer space
    > is to take the car to Superlube to have the oil changed and this
    > time give them a genuine Mazda filter.  They tightened it, let them
    > (or whoever is there now) loosen it.   Another crew educated about
    > the difference between finger tight and 100 ft lb.  :)

    Check and make sure that they put the drain plug back in before they
    filled the sump with oil. Grab hold and make sure the drain plug isn’t
    stripped from another hundred foot-pounds of misapplied torque.

    They shouldn’t give those guys any tools at all.


    Kent W. England

  25. admin says:

    On 13 Mar 2001 00:35:24 GMT, t…@topdown.net wrote about How do you measure 0.8 quarts of oil?:

    >   How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    Dipstick!

    :)   No, that’s not an insult, it’s a measuring device…

    Since the oil remaining in the engine after it has ‘all’ drained out
    is not known, just put in your 3.0 and then add a bit at a time
    to get a showing on the dipstick at the level you want.

    After you’ve done it a few times you’ll get a feel for how much you
    have to put in.
    It’s not an exact science anyway.

    </Dave/Null


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    (No political comments intented :)

  26. admin says:

    I always put in 3 and a half quarts and then check the dipstick after waiting 20
    minutes or so. It is always full at that point. Even though I let the car drain for
    a long time, there is still some oil within the engine when the new oil is added.
    Putting in exactly 3.8 quarts will probably give you closer to 4 quarts in the
    engine. This won’t cause a problem, but neither will running a bit less than 3.8
    quarts total as some range in quantity is allowed here.
    As far as measuring 0.8 out of 1 quart, I would use an accurate scale and fill an
    empty oil container until it weighed 80% of a full one.
    Pat
    ’96M

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    t…@topdown.net wrote:
    >   How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    >   As most of you know, the Miata requires 3.8 quarts of oil for the oil.
    > Well, measuring out 1.0 quarts is pretty simple, since it’s the contents of
    > the entire bottle.  For the last 0.8 quart portion, how do you measure to
    > make sure you’re getting that exact amount?

    >   In the past, I’ve done this by guestimation.  The side of the oil bottle
    > typically has measuring points at 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 quart points.  So, I just
    > put in the oil until it’s a tad below the 3/4 marker point.  While I think
    > this method is good enough, I wish there was a more exacting way to measure
    > 0.8 quarts.

    >   Does anyone have any recommendations on this?

    >   Tim

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  27. admin says:

    >  How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    I’d stick to what you were doing. This is not an exact science anyway. I have
    always guestimated and never had a problem. The only way to be exact is taking
    a measuring cup and poor the oil to the proper mark. In my opinion, not
    necessary at all :) Good luck though
    Cissy

  28. admin says:

    t…@topdown.net wrote:
    >  How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    >  As most of you know, the Miata requires 3.8 quarts of oil for the oil.

    But that includes oil that did not drain out.  Miata Magazine
    recommended keeping oil at the max sign, whatever amount that may
    require with your draining style.  This to avoid lifter noise,
    especially during AutoX.

    Leon

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  29. admin says:

    One quart =two pints
    Two Pints = 4 Cups
    4 Cups  = 32 Tablespoons.
    32 Tablespoons = 96 Teaspoons.

    So 0.8 Quarts
    One Pint (0.5 Quart)
    One Cup (0.25 Quart)
    One Tablespoon (0.03125 Quart)
    Two Teaspoons (0.02 Quart)

    I Usually estimate the tablespoons and teaspoons.

    P

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    <t…@topdown.net> wrote in message news:98jq0c$a47$1@news.netmar.com…

    >   How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    >   As most of you know, the Miata requires 3.8 quarts of oil for the oil.
    > Well, measuring out 1.0 quarts is pretty simple, since it’s the contents
    of
    > the entire bottle.  For the last 0.8 quart portion, how do you measure to
    > make sure you’re getting that exact amount?

    >   In the past, I’ve done this by guestimation.  The side of the oil bottle
    > typically has measuring points at 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 quart points.  So, I
    just
    > put in the oil until it’s a tad below the 3/4 marker point.  While I think
    > this method is good enough, I wish there was a more exacting way to
    measure
    > 0.8 quarts.

    >   Does anyone have any recommendations on this?

    >   Tim

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  30. admin says:

    LOL :)
    How much longer is it going to take before we finally adopt the metric system.
    Maybe after NASA loses another multibillion probe someone’s going to react. ;)

    Stephan.

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    Peter Owitz wrote:
    > One quart =two pints
    > Two Pints = 4 Cups
    > 4 Cups  = 32 Tablespoons.
    > 32 Tablespoons = 96 Teaspoons.

    > So 0.8 Quarts
    > One Pint (0.5 Quart)
    > One Cup (0.25 Quart)
    > One Tablespoon (0.03125 Quart)
    > Two Teaspoons (0.02 Quart)

    > I Usually estimate the tablespoons and teaspoons.

    > P
    > <t…@topdown.net> wrote in message news:98jq0c$a47$1@news.netmar.com…

    > >   How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    > >   As most of you know, the Miata requires 3.8 quarts of oil for the oil.
    > > Well, measuring out 1.0 quarts is pretty simple, since it’s the contents
    > of
    > > the entire bottle.  For the last 0.8 quart portion, how do you measure to
    > > make sure you’re getting that exact amount?

    > >   In the past, I’ve done this by guestimation.  The side of the oil bottle
    > > typically has measuring points at 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 quart points.  So, I
    > just
    > > put in the oil until it’s a tad below the 3/4 marker point.  While I think
    > > this method is good enough, I wish there was a more exacting way to
    > measure
    > > 0.8 quarts.

    > >   Does anyone have any recommendations on this?

    > >   Tim

    > > ————————————————–
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    > >            The best windblocker for your Miata.
    > >  (That’s not marketing hype – it’s actually true!)
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  31. admin says:

    Just put ion all 4 quarts. It won’t hurt anything.

  32. admin says:

    "Peter Owitz" <peterow…@home.com> wrote:
    >One quart =two pints
    >Two Pints = 4 Cups
    >4 Cups  = 32 Tablespoons.
    >32 Tablespoons = 96 Teaspoons.

    >So 0.8 Quarts
    >One Pint (0.5 Quart)
    >One Cup (0.25 Quart)
    >One Tablespoon (0.03125 Quart)
    >Two Teaspoons (0.02 Quart)

    Hum.  Tim wanted it exact, already being able to get close from
    the 0.75 quart mark on the bottle plus one fifth.

    >So 0.8 Quarts
    >One Pint (0.5 Quart)
    >One Cup (0.25 Quart)
    >One Tablespoon (0.03125 Quart)

    That is exactly 0.78125 quarts.

    Add one teaspoon.  (a teaspoon is by approximation 0.010416667
    quarts.)  Left is about .008333333 quarts.  I know from my US cook
    book that teaspoons are subdivided using the base 2 system like
    inches.  (1/2 teaspoon, 1/4 teaspoon, 1/16 teaspoon, 1/32 teaspoon, …)

    Add 3/4 teaspoon.  Left is 0.000520833.

    Add 1/32 teaspoon.  If you do not have a 3/4 teaspoon measure
    but only a 1/32 teaspoon handy, no problem: just put in 25.)
    Left is 0.000195312 quarts.

    Hopefully Tim will agree that 1/32 of a teaspoon is a fairly
    small amount.  So at this stage I would recommend cheating
    and add what looks like a 60% full 1/32 teaspoon measure.  As
    an initial approximation, maybe.  Since I am starting to mess
    up my math, say.

    >I Usually estimate the tablespoons and teaspoons.

    If you estimate the tablespoons, why not be exact about
    the teaspoons?  Sloppy.  ;)

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    >P
    ><t…@topdown.net> wrote in message news:98jq0c$a47$1@news.netmar.com…

    >>   How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    >>   As most of you know, the Miata requires 3.8 quarts of oil for the oil.
    >> Well, measuring out 1.0 quarts is pretty simple, since it’s the contents
    >of
    >> the entire bottle.  For the last 0.8 quart portion, how do you measure to
    >> make sure you’re getting that exact amount?

    >>   In the past, I’ve done this by guestimation.  The side of the oil bottle
    >> typically has measuring points at 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 quart points.  So, I
    >just
    >> put in the oil until it’s a tad below the 3/4 marker point.  While I think
    >> this method is good enough, I wish there was a more exacting way to
    >measure
    >> 0.8 quarts.

    >>   Does anyone have any recommendations on this?

    >>   Tim

    >> ————————————————–
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    >>            The best windblocker for your Miata.
    >>  (That’s not marketing hype – it’s actually true!)
    >>           http://www.topdown.net 206-222-8058
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    Leon  ;)

    Leon van Dommelen :)    Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
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  33. admin says:

    Are those heaping teaspoons?
    "Peter Owitz" <peterow…@home.com> wrote in message

    news:Suwr6.30511$Ok4.3014550@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com…

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    > One quart =two pints
    > Two Pints = 4 Cups
    > 4 Cups  = 32 Tablespoons.
    > 32 Tablespoons = 96 Teaspoons.

    > So 0.8 Quarts
    > One Pint (0.5 Quart)
    > One Cup (0.25 Quart)
    > One Tablespoon (0.03125 Quart)
    > Two Teaspoons (0.02 Quart)

    > I Usually estimate the tablespoons and teaspoons.

    > P
    > <t…@topdown.net> wrote in message news:98jq0c$a47$1@news.netmar.com…

    > >   How do you measure out 0.8 quarts of oil?

    > >   As most of you know, the Miata requires 3.8 quarts of oil for the oil.
    > > Well, measuring out 1.0 quarts is pretty simple, since it’s the contents
    > of
    > > the entire bottle.  For the last 0.8 quart portion, how do you measure
    to
    > > make sure you’re getting that exact amount?

    > >   In the past, I’ve done this by guestimation.  The side of the oil
    bottle
    > > typically has measuring points at 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 quart points.  So, I
    > just
    > > put in the oil until it’s a tad below the 3/4 marker point.  While I
    think
    > > this method is good enough, I wish there was a more exacting way to
    > measure
    > > 0.8 quarts.

    > >   Does anyone have any recommendations on this?

    > >   Tim

    > > ————————————————–
    > >               Tim Schmitt t…@topdown.net
    > >                      TopDown
    > >            The best windblocker for your Miata.
    > >  (That’s not marketing hype – it’s actually true!)
    > >           http://www.topdown.net 206-222-8058
    > > ————————————————–

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  34. admin says:

    How are you doing after this ordeal?

    And how did the deer come out of this situation??

    Just wondering.

  35. admin says:

    Karl Kittler wrote:

    <snippage>

    > My 1990 beautiful red baby got hit by
    > this deer. I think he was suffering from
    > jealousy and some road rage…
    > I was doing about 60, the headlights
    > were up. The blasted animal smashed both
    > turn signals, bent the hood enough to
    > put a 1/2" gap on the passenger’s side
    > between the fender and the now raised
    > hood.
    > Also, the passenger side headlight won’t
    > go down. I haven’t dared to open the
    > hood.

    Ouch!  Are You okay?

    > If anyone’s been unfortunate as I have,
    > would you answer me a few questions:
    > First off, but least important, how much
    > is it gonna run me? I have a $1000
    > deductible.

    The last time my  Belle had a broken nose, it ran just under $2,000.  That
    included replacing the whole nose assembly, both parking light assemblies,
    and one barn door, as well as all painting etc.

    > Second, will my baby be the same
    > afterwards with a good body shop?

    If they do a good enough job.  Make sure to check for hidden damage and get
    it fixed the first time.

    Good luck on whatever you decide.

    Iva &  Belle.)
    "90B Classic Red.)
    #3 winkin’ Miata

  36. admin says:

    Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Not much you can do, though. I bought those
    deer whistler thing a ma jigs. After opening package and reading the directions
    stating for best results, place them on top of the hood I discarded them.
    (apparently sticking them on the lower front bumper out of sight, though in the
    airstream, will not work)

    I’ve bagged two deer.(not at the same time)

    Both times the repair bill was about $1700.00. (hood, lights, bumper) The body
    shop I went to the first time was recommended by a friend and was excellent.
    Unfortunately, the second time around the shop was no longer in business. My
    friend recommended another shop, but the results were not as good. Had to have
    the car professionally detailed to remove the overspray. (was too pissed to
    take it back and worried that the shop might screw it up worse.) Looks good
    now. Neither incident changed the driving characteristics of the car.

    My wife tagged one in November. Did $2100.00 damage. Found a great body shop in
    Southeastern PA. Don’t know your location so e-mail me if you need the name.

    Good luck.

    G. Lee

  37. admin says:

    Too bad about your wheels and the deer – I guess the deer was a little worse
    off.  We haven’t got the deer problem here but we have millions of rather
    large kangaroos which seem to really enjoy playing chicken with cars trucks
    and bicycles.  These guys seem to time it so they will be sure to get hit
    and it’s no joke when it happens.

    I know most of you Miata folks despise 4×4 vehicles but here in rural
    Australia if you plan to drive at dawn or dusk and do over 30 kilometres an
    hour then a heavy vehicle with a steel bullbar is the only real protection
    there is against having an animal coming through the windshield.  I have
    seen quite a few of the whistle attachments they call Shoo Roo but I guess
    it would be pretty difficult to know if it has prevented hitting an animal.

    Hope you wheels get back to normal soon.

    Marc

    Karl Kittler <solit…@ptd.net> wrote in message

    news:3AAD94E5.4DBBB594@ptd.net…

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    > I know this is an all too common
    > problem. I’m hoping someone who’s been
    > through it might be able to help or
    > relate his experience.

    > My 1990 beautiful red baby got hit by
    > this deer. I think he was suffering from
    > jealousy and some road rage…
    > I was doing about 60, the headlights
    > were up. The blasted animal smashed both
    > turn signals, bent the hood enough to
    > put a 1/2" gap on the passenger’s side
    > between the fender and the now raised
    > hood.
    > Also, the passenger side headlight won’t
    > go down. I haven’t dared to open the
    > hood.

    > If anyone’s been unfortunate as I have,
    > would you answer me a few questions:
    > First off, but least important, how much
    > is it gonna run me? I have a $1000
    > deductible.
    > Second, will my baby be the same
    > afterwards with a good body shop?

    > I know you’re not an insurance adjuster,
    > and I’m not going to blame you if your
    > wrong. I would like to know is it
    > $200-300 or 2000-3000?
    > Should I fix her and trade her in, or
    > fix her and love her like I always
    > have.  And put those deer deterant
    > thingies on. BTW do they work? Or I
    > guess does anyone know they do not work?

    > Lastly, I was really looking forward to
    > putting a Simpson? Italia body kit on
    > her, but first I have to sell my house
    > and buy a new one.  Has anyone hit a
    > deer, or any other object for that
    > matter and then moved on to body kits?

    > I apologize for my questions being a
    > little redundant.

    > A very, very sad solitary.

    > —
    > "WARNING: Armed with a dangerous mind"
    > And apparently car, she’s got the taste
    > of deer. I hope she doesn’t want
    > seconds.

  38. admin says:

    Deer + Miata = http://www.connect.ab.ca/~wildrose/events99/deerhunter99.htm

    That was $6,500 Canadian (including a new top…deer’s hoof cut it).

    Not me, but I know the guy.  Car’s fine again…looks better than it did.

    MG

    "Karl Kittler" <solit…@ptd.net> wrote in message

    news:3AAD94E5.4DBBB594@ptd.net…

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    > I know this is an all too common
    > problem. I’m hoping someone who’s been
    > through it might be able to help or
    > relate his experience.

  39. admin says:

    Mark, thanks for the down under view. I’ll keep that in mind should I ever drive
    your way at dusk. I am curious, are ‘Roos as defiant with motorcycles? I’ve
    often thought of taking a trip to take a bike across your country. In December
    or so.
    I’m very thankful that deer didn’t hit me on my bike. Every situation I could
    imagine seems to end bad.

    >  I have seen quite a few of the whistle attachments they call Shoo Roo but I
    > guess
    > it would be pretty difficult to know if it has prevented hitting an animal.

    Hmm, maybe someone can say the don’t work. Right now, silence either means they
    work or no one uses them.

  40. admin says:

    Thank you all for your concern. I’m
    perfectly fine. The deer, well, he was
    still there this morning on the way to
    work. However, he was not on the way
    home. Either way, I’m assuming the worst
    for the deer.
    I was rather surprised, after the shock
    and anger wore off that the air bag
    didn’t go off.  Then a little later, I
    did the math, no exact figures, but came
    to the conclusion that a 60, or even 100
    lb deer at 60 mph is not equivalent to a
    2000 lb car at 12 mph. Which is what
    I’ve been told it takes to set off an
    air bag. OTOH, the guy’s at the junkyard
    say they "pop ‘em with baseball bats"
    and remark that it’s rather cool. I’d
    prefer to not find out.
    After speaking with my Ins. Co. they
    said I could open the hood, but not wash
    the car. Ironically, it rained last
    night.  After close inspection, my
    radiator is quite loose, there’s minor
    damage to the AC cooler, which I can do
    with out. My grill guard is shot. The
    frame seems just fine. The stuff behind
    the nose seems to have taken the brunt
    of it. Which looks like it can easily,
    but not cheaply be replaced.
    I found out why the headlight won’t
    close, the connecting rod came off the
    motor. Also, the bugger pushed the
    headlight in, so if it did close, it
    would probably jam.  The hood won’t
    close, which worries me. But I’m also a
    little relieved. Too long to explain,
    and boring as well.
    There’s quite a bit of fur right along
    the line where the hood and nose meet.
    Even after the rain.
    MG:
    My car looks nothing like that. Thank
    God!  However, it looks like
    structurally, the car is sound. I had
    the moose thought too, except, I was
    thinking cattle. Either way, a ton’s a
    ton.
    I’m done rambling now. Thanks again for
    sharing your not so great Miata stories
    with me.  I kinda expected to pay around
    what you said you did. Now if only I can
    figure out how to go back to Sunday and
    change my deductible to $0.

    One more question, am I right that Miata
    hoods are aluminum?  If so, are any
    other parts that I should make sure I
    get aluminum as well? Aftermarket is
    fine, but the quality’s got to be the
    same.


    "WARNING: Armed with a dangerous mind"
    Venison burgers anyone? I’ve got plenty.

  41. admin says:

    Just got finished talking with my ins.
    co. They say $936.   I’m going to get
    another estimate. It just seems too
    low.  However, it’s close to what I
    figured. I figured the Ins. Co would say
    990 because my deductable is 1000.
    I noticed some odd things in the
    estimate. They say Blend often instead
    of paint. Also, they say the hood is
    repairable, which I don’t think it is.
    Not for less than the cost of the hood
    anyway.  This is my first and hopefully
    last claim. Did anyone else see this
    kind of stuff?


    "WARNING: Armed with a dangerous mind"

  42. admin says:

    >My 1990 beautiful red baby got hit by
    >this deer. I think he was suffering from
    >jealousy and some road rage…

    Hey, have some respect for the animal…..your baby got hit BY a deer??
    Sounds like the other way round.  Poor fella probably never knew what hit
    him….

    Puf

  43. admin says:

    I’d love to look at it that way. Really I would. My Miata, unlike when I
    bought her is loud. Loud noises tend to scare animals away. Especially wild
    ones. He had fair warning.
    Now, I’d love to take the dumb animal argument as well. Unfortunately, in PA,
    the average age of a deer at death is three years. IMHO, that’s not enough
    time to learn to stay off of the black trails with the yellow stripe running
    down the middle. So, they may not be dumb, but they are uneducated.
    From a different perspective, the deer could have been suffering from Road
    Rage. I don’t think he got that close to admire the gorgeous design of the
    Miata.

    And it’s not like I set out to get a deer. If that was the case, I would have
    been driving the Honda. One very similar to my Honda was just purchased for
    $900.

    One more thing, I do have some regret. According to my beliefs, you must eat
    what you kill. Or kill only in self defense. There’s no clause for accidental
    death. I don’t have the means to butcher a deer, nor the space to store 20+
    lbs of meat. Therefore, I was unable to eat it.

    Remorsefully Yours,
    Solitary

    thepuf wrote:
    > Hey, have some respect for the animal…..your baby got hit BY a deer??
    > Sounds like the other way round.  Poor fella probably never knew what hit
    > him….

    > Puf


    "WARNING: Armed with a dangerous mind"

  44. admin says:

    These suckers are liable to jump in front of anything – I have had them jump
    out of the bush when on my mountain bike!  The best idea is to avoid travel
    at dawn or dusk whatever you drive.  In addition to roos we have: sheep,
    emus, cows, and others roaming around the roads as many farmers graze their
    stock on road verges when it gets a bit dry and the fencing is often less
    then perfect on stations which can be many thousands of acres.

    I would avoid December as this is the hottest part of our year in the south
    and the "wet" in the north.  Try April to around August.  The dollar
    exchange rate will mean you will get a budget holiday whenever you decide to
    come over.

    See ya,

    Marc

    Karl Kittler <solit…@ptd.net> wrote in message

    news:3AAEE50C.4596027A@ptd.net…

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    > Mark, thanks for the down under view. I’ll keep that in mind should I ever
    drive
    > your way at dusk. I am curious, are ‘Roos as defiant with motorcycles?
    I’ve
    > often thought of taking a trip to take a bike across your country. In
    December
    > or so.
    > I’m very thankful that deer didn’t hit me on my bike. Every situation I
    could
    > imagine seems to end bad.

    > >  I have seen quite a few of the whistle attachments they call Shoo Roo
    but I
    > > guess
    > > it would be pretty difficult to know if it has prevented hitting an
    animal.

    > Hmm, maybe someone can say the don’t work. Right now, silence either means
    they
    > work or no one uses them.

  45. admin says:

    Ya reely gotta send ‘em uneddicated dear ta skool ‘n git ‘em some
    larning.

    Nora and the Rollerskate
    ’99 silver, waiting for romp time

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    On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Karl Kittler wrote:
    > Now, I’d love to take the dumb animal argument as well. Unfortunately, in PA,
    > the average age of a deer at death is three years. IMHO, that’s not enough
    > time to learn to stay off of the black trails with the yellow stripe running
    > down the middle. So, they may not be dumb, but they are uneducated.

  46. admin says:

    I have Liberty Mutual and they pay almost everything for a deer hit.
    They consider it an act of God and the deductable dosn’t apply.  We have
    been hit by several deer and they don’t complain.  Just make sure you
    tell them the deer hit you.

    Dave 2000SE

  47. admin says:

    Ha!!

    :-)

    NORA H E HAGUE wrote in message …

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    >Ya reely gotta send ‘em uneddicated dear ta skool ‘n git ‘em some
    >larning.

    >Nora and the Rollerskate
    >’99 silver, waiting for romp time

    >On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Karl Kittler wrote:

    >> Now, I’d love to take the dumb animal argument as well. Unfortunately, in
    PA,
    >> the average age of a deer at death is three years. IMHO, that’s not
    enough
    >> time to learn to stay off of the black trails with the yellow stripe
    running
    >> down the middle. So, they may not be dumb, but they are uneducated.

  48. admin says:

    Hmm, an act of god? I thought thats what
    insurance companies use to get out of
    paying claims.
    Yes, I did state the deer hit me. But
    since he didn’t have any insurance, my
    deductable applies.


    "WARNING: Armed with a dangerous mind"

  49. admin says:

    Was it filed under collision or… uninsured motorist? :)

    Stephan Guillou
    96 Montego Blue

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    Karl Kittler wrote:
    > Hmm, an act of god? I thought thats what
    > insurance companies use to get out of
    > paying claims.
    > Yes, I did state the deer hit me. But
    > since he didn’t have any insurance, my
    > deductable applies.

    > —
    > "WARNING: Armed with a dangerous mind"

  50. admin says:

    Since the deer died at the scene, I had
    it under collison. It wasn’t until later
    that I had found the deer was
    underinsured.


    "WARNING: Armed with a dangerous mind"

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