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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In response to your question about which c.s key &amp; bolt to use...it doesn&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; matter! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;mazda will only ship the most recent part number (which supercedes all &lt;br /&gt; others) as they discontinue stocking all others. &#160;As mazda has been working &lt;br /&gt; 12 years to fix this problem i would advise you use their most recent &lt;br /&gt; attempt at a solution rather than try to go it your self. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The difference in response you noted comes from the fact that, before &lt;br /&gt; breaking, the cam timing was likely off substantially -- so you were not &lt;br /&gt; driving a &#039;healthy&#039; B6 variant engine. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck with the rest of the repair. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Brian. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;In article &lt;19970704145601.KAA29...@ladder02.news.aol.com&gt; noaz...@aol.com (NoaZark) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;From: noaz...@aol.com (NoaZark) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Subject: Crankshaft failure update! &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:56:29 GMT &lt;br /&gt; &gt;First of all...Happy Fourth of July...as of yesterday...my &#039;90A is still &lt;br /&gt; &gt;in the air at the dealership (literally)...the new crankshaft has been &lt;br /&gt; &gt;installed...there was a bit of a wait for the correct main bearings to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;arrive...i heard the car run yesterday for the first time since the c.s. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;has been replaced...what an incredible difference in terms of throttle &lt;br /&gt; &gt;response at idle!!!...this is good!...i saw the old c.s. the key appeared &lt;br /&gt; &gt;to have been inserted incorrectly as was suspected...it just was not &lt;br /&gt; &gt;sitting correctly...so the c.s. has been replaced, the timing belt drive &lt;br /&gt; &gt;gear, the front seal, the main bearings, the harmonic balancer/pulley. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;However...there is an uncertaintay as to whether or not the c.s. bolt that &lt;br /&gt; &gt;came with the new c.s. is the since improved &quot;hardened&quot; bolt. Perhaps &lt;br /&gt; &gt;someone out there knows this information...here is a list of the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;generation of Mazda part numbers as they relate to the crankshaft and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;bolt. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I was told that the original c.s. part number was: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B61611300A &lt;br /&gt; &gt;which was altered (improved) and changed to the following number: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B61611300B &lt;br /&gt; &gt;It is my understanding that the most current version of this improved &lt;br /&gt; &gt;crankshaft is as follows: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B61711300 &#160;(no alpha character). &lt;br /&gt; &gt;In relation to the crankshaft bolt...there have been three successions of &lt;br /&gt; &gt;this bolt too...in the series listed, from first to most current: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011406A &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011406B &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011406C (most current) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;The part number for the c.s. key...is as follows, with two apparent &lt;br /&gt; &gt;changes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011317 &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011317A (most current) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Does anyone have information which would contradict the above...i&#039;d sure &lt;br /&gt; &gt;love to know...thanks.. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;At this moment, the dealership and I are attempting to answer the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;crankshaft bolt question before committing any particular bolt, coated in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;thread-lock, to the crankshaft. But I half expect that by Wednesday of &lt;br /&gt; &gt;next week...i will have the car back... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Take care all..!! &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Noah &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------------ &lt;br /&gt; Bryan &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to your question about which c.s key &amp; bolt to use&#8230;it doesn&#8217;t <br /> matter!  </p>
<p>mazda will only ship the most recent part number (which supercedes all <br /> others) as they discontinue stocking all others. &nbsp;As mazda has been working <br /> 12 years to fix this problem i would advise you use their most recent <br /> attempt at a solution rather than try to go it your self.  </p>
<p>The difference in response you noted comes from the fact that, before <br /> breaking, the cam timing was likely off substantially &#8212; so you were not <br /> driving a &#8216;healthy&#8217; B6 variant engine.  </p>
<p>Good luck with the rest of the repair.  </p>
<p>Regards,  </p>
<p>Brian.  </p>
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<p>In article &lt;19970704145601.KAA29&#8230;@ladder02.news.aol.com&gt; <a href="mailto:noaz...@aol.com">noaz&#8230;@aol.com</a> (NoaZark) writes: <br /> &gt;From: <a href="mailto:noaz...@aol.com">noaz&#8230;@aol.com</a> (NoaZark) <br /> &gt;Subject: Crankshaft failure update! <br /> &gt;Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:56:29 GMT <br /> &gt;First of all&#8230;Happy Fourth of July&#8230;as of yesterday&#8230;my &#8217;90A is still <br /> &gt;in the air at the dealership (literally)&#8230;the new crankshaft has been <br /> &gt;installed&#8230;there was a bit of a wait for the correct main bearings to <br /> &gt;arrive&#8230;i heard the car run yesterday for the first time since the c.s. <br /> &gt;has been replaced&#8230;what an incredible difference in terms of throttle <br /> &gt;response at idle!!!&#8230;this is good!&#8230;i saw the old c.s. the key appeared <br /> &gt;to have been inserted incorrectly as was suspected&#8230;it just was not <br /> &gt;sitting correctly&#8230;so the c.s. has been replaced, the timing belt drive <br /> &gt;gear, the front seal, the main bearings, the harmonic balancer/pulley. <br /> &gt;However&#8230;there is an uncertaintay as to whether or not the c.s. bolt that <br /> &gt;came with the new c.s. is the since improved &quot;hardened&quot; bolt. Perhaps <br /> &gt;someone out there knows this information&#8230;here is a list of the <br /> &gt;generation of Mazda part numbers as they relate to the crankshaft and <br /> &gt;bolt. <br /> &gt;I was told that the original c.s. part number was: <br /> &gt;B61611300A <br /> &gt;which was altered (improved) and changed to the following number: <br /> &gt;B61611300B <br /> &gt;It is my understanding that the most current version of this improved <br /> &gt;crankshaft is as follows: <br /> &gt;B61711300 &nbsp;(no alpha character). <br /> &gt;In relation to the crankshaft bolt&#8230;there have been three successions of <br /> &gt;this bolt too&#8230;in the series listed, from first to most current: <br /> &gt;B63011406A <br /> &gt;B63011406B <br /> &gt;B63011406C (most current) <br /> &gt;The part number for the c.s. key&#8230;is as follows, with two apparent <br /> &gt;changes: <br /> &gt;B63011317 <br /> &gt;B63011317A (most current) <br /> &gt;Does anyone have information which would contradict the above&#8230;i&#8217;d sure <br /> &gt;love to know&#8230;thanks.. <br /> &gt;At this moment, the dealership and I are attempting to answer the <br /> &gt;crankshaft bolt question before committing any particular bolt, coated in <br /> &gt;thread-lock, to the crankshaft. But I half expect that by Wednesday of <br /> &gt;next week&#8230;i will have the car back&#8230; <br /> &gt;Take care all..!! <br /> &gt;Noah </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;Actually, the bolt is not hardened...it is just coated with a different &lt;br /&gt; adhesive. &#160;Welcome to the wonderful world of B6 bottom end troubles which we &lt;br /&gt; Mazda 323GTX owners have known for years before you :-&gt; It is nice to have &lt;br /&gt; company. (The B6 and the B6 turbo engine have been around since 1985 in the &lt;br /&gt; 323 and 323GTX) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyone else reading this who needs a bottom end (or top, for that matter) I &lt;br /&gt; have 1 brand new and 1 used B6turbo motor available either complete or will &lt;br /&gt; separate into major components. &#160;Give your Miata a real kick in the pants! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bryan &lt;br /&gt; (519) 885-0341 &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;y &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;In article &lt;19970704145601.KAA29...@ladder02.news.aol.com&gt; noaz...@aol.com (NoaZark) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;From: noaz...@aol.com (NoaZark) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Subject: Crankshaft failure update! &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:56:29 GMT &lt;br /&gt; &gt;First of all...Happy Fourth of July...as of yesterday...my &#039;90A is still &lt;br /&gt; &gt;in the air at the dealership (literally)...the new crankshaft has been &lt;br /&gt; &gt;installed...there was a bit of a wait for the correct main bearings to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;arrive...i heard the car run yesterday for the first time since the c.s. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;has been replaced...what an incredible difference in terms of throttle &lt;br /&gt; &gt;response at idle!!!...this is good!...i saw the old c.s. the key appeared &lt;br /&gt; &gt;to have been inserted incorrectly as was suspected...it just was not &lt;br /&gt; &gt;sitting correctly...so the c.s. has been replaced, the timing belt drive &lt;br /&gt; &gt;gear, the front seal, the main bearings, the harmonic balancer/pulley. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;However...there is an uncertaintay as to whether or not the c.s. bolt that &lt;br /&gt; &gt;came with the new c.s. is the since improved &quot;hardened&quot; bolt. Perhaps &lt;br /&gt; &gt;someone out there knows this information...here is a list of the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;generation of Mazda part numbers as they relate to the crankshaft and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;bolt. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I was told that the original c.s. part number was: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B61611300A &lt;br /&gt; &gt;which was altered (improved) and changed to the following number: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B61611300B &lt;br /&gt; &gt;It is my understanding that the most current version of this improved &lt;br /&gt; &gt;crankshaft is as follows: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B61711300 &#160;(no alpha character). &lt;br /&gt; &gt;In relation to the crankshaft bolt...there have been three successions of &lt;br /&gt; &gt;this bolt too...in the series listed, from first to most current: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011406A &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011406B &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011406C (most current) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;The part number for the c.s. key...is as follows, with two apparent &lt;br /&gt; &gt;changes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011317 &lt;br /&gt; &gt;B63011317A (most current) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Does anyone have information which would contradict the above...i&#039;d sure &lt;br /&gt; &gt;love to know...thanks.. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;At this moment, the dealership and I are attempting to answer the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;crankshaft bolt question before committing any particular bolt, coated in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;thread-lock, to the crankshaft. But I half expect that by Wednesday of &lt;br /&gt; &gt;next week...i will have the car back... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Take care all..!! &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Noah &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------------ &lt;br /&gt; Bryan &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the bolt is not hardened&#8230;it is just coated with a different <br /> adhesive. &nbsp;Welcome to the wonderful world of B6 bottom end troubles which we <br /> Mazda 323GTX owners have known for years before you :-&gt; It is nice to have <br /> company. (The B6 and the B6 turbo engine have been around since 1985 in the <br /> 323 and 323GTX)  </p>
<p>Anyone else reading this who needs a bottom end (or top, for that matter) I <br /> have 1 brand new and 1 used B6turbo motor available either complete or will <br /> separate into major components. &nbsp;Give your Miata a real kick in the pants!  </p>
<p>Bryan <br /> (519) 885-0341  </p>
<p>y  </p>
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<p>In article &lt;19970704145601.KAA29&#8230;@ladder02.news.aol.com&gt; <a href="mailto:noaz...@aol.com">noaz&#8230;@aol.com</a> (NoaZark) writes: <br /> &gt;From: <a href="mailto:noaz...@aol.com">noaz&#8230;@aol.com</a> (NoaZark) <br /> &gt;Subject: Crankshaft failure update! <br /> &gt;Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:56:29 GMT <br /> &gt;First of all&#8230;Happy Fourth of July&#8230;as of yesterday&#8230;my &#8217;90A is still <br /> &gt;in the air at the dealership (literally)&#8230;the new crankshaft has been <br /> &gt;installed&#8230;there was a bit of a wait for the correct main bearings to <br /> &gt;arrive&#8230;i heard the car run yesterday for the first time since the c.s. <br /> &gt;has been replaced&#8230;what an incredible difference in terms of throttle <br /> &gt;response at idle!!!&#8230;this is good!&#8230;i saw the old c.s. the key appeared <br /> &gt;to have been inserted incorrectly as was suspected&#8230;it just was not <br /> &gt;sitting correctly&#8230;so the c.s. has been replaced, the timing belt drive <br /> &gt;gear, the front seal, the main bearings, the harmonic balancer/pulley. <br /> &gt;However&#8230;there is an uncertaintay as to whether or not the c.s. bolt that <br /> &gt;came with the new c.s. is the since improved &quot;hardened&quot; bolt. Perhaps <br /> &gt;someone out there knows this information&#8230;here is a list of the <br /> &gt;generation of Mazda part numbers as they relate to the crankshaft and <br /> &gt;bolt. <br /> &gt;I was told that the original c.s. part number was: <br /> &gt;B61611300A <br /> &gt;which was altered (improved) and changed to the following number: <br /> &gt;B61611300B <br /> &gt;It is my understanding that the most current version of this improved <br /> &gt;crankshaft is as follows: <br /> &gt;B61711300 &nbsp;(no alpha character). <br /> &gt;In relation to the crankshaft bolt&#8230;there have been three successions of <br /> &gt;this bolt too&#8230;in the series listed, from first to most current: <br /> &gt;B63011406A <br /> &gt;B63011406B <br /> &gt;B63011406C (most current) <br /> &gt;The part number for the c.s. key&#8230;is as follows, with two apparent <br /> &gt;changes: <br /> &gt;B63011317 <br /> &gt;B63011317A (most current) <br /> &gt;Does anyone have information which would contradict the above&#8230;i&#8217;d sure <br /> &gt;love to know&#8230;thanks.. <br /> &gt;At this moment, the dealership and I are attempting to answer the <br /> &gt;crankshaft bolt question before committing any particular bolt, coated in <br /> &gt;thread-lock, to the crankshaft. But I half expect that by Wednesday of <br /> &gt;next week&#8230;i will have the car back&#8230; <br /> &gt;Take care all..!! <br /> &gt;Noah </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; <br /> Bryan </p>
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